This is a conversation with Jef Baker, head of the Sydney chapter of the Australian Psychedelic Society. We covered a broad range of topics including the transforming nature of the psychedelic community in Australia, 5-Meo-DMT and my research into 5-MeO containing plants, the nature the entities and beings in the tryptamine space, understanding the different qualities of tryptamine containing Acacia species and we also speak about a mystery acacia with reported indigenous usage.